问题
I have read that with a statically typed language like Scala or Haskell there is no way to create or provide a Lisp apply function:
(apply #'+ (list 1 2 3)) => 6
or maybe
(apply #'list '(list :foo 1 2 "bar")) => (:FOO 1 2 "bar")
(apply #'nth (list 1 '(1 2 3))) => 2
Is this a truth?
回答1:
A full APPLY is difficult in a static language.
In Lisp APPLY applies a function to a list of arguments. Both the function and the list of arguments are arguments to APPLY.
APPLY can use any function. That means that this could be any result type and any argument types.
APPLY takes arbitrary arguments in arbitrary length (in Common Lisp the length is restricted by an implementation specific constant value) with arbitrary and possibly different types.
APPLY returns any type of value that is returned by the function it got as an argument.
How would one type check that without subverting a static type system?
Examples:
(apply #'+ '(1 1.4)) ; the result is a float.
(apply #'open (list "/tmp/foo" :direction :input))
; the result is an I/O stream
(apply #'open (list name :direction direction))
; the result is also an I/O stream
(apply some-function some-arguments)
; the result is whatever the function bound to some-function returns
(apply (read) (read))
; neither the actual function nor the arguments are known before runtime.
; READ can return anything
Interaction example:
CL-USER 49 > (apply (READ) (READ)) ; call APPLY
open ; enter the symbol OPEN
("/tmp/foo" :direction :input :if-does-not-exist :create) ; enter a list
#<STREAM::LATIN-1-FILE-STREAM /tmp/foo> ; the result
Now an example with the function REMOVE. We are going to remove the character a from a list of different things.
CL-USER 50 > (apply (READ) (READ))
remove
(#\a (1 "a" #\a 12.3 :foo))
(1 "a" 12.3 :FOO)
Note that you also can apply apply itself, since apply is a function.
CL-USER 56 > (apply #'apply '(+ (1 2 3)))
6
There is also a slight complication because the function APPLY takes an arbitrary number of arguments, where only the last argument needs to be a list:
CL-USER 57 > (apply #'open
"/tmp/foo1"
:direction
:input
'(:if-does-not-exist :create))
#<STREAM::LATIN-1-FILE-STREAM /tmp/foo1>
How to deal with that?
relax static type checking rules
restrict APPLY
One or both of above will have to be done in a typical statically type checked programming language. Neither will give you a fully statically checked and fully flexible APPLY.
回答2:
It is perfectly possible in a statically typed language. The whole java.lang.reflect thingy is about doing that. Of course, using reflection gives you as much type safety as you have with Lisp. On the other hand, while I do not know if there are statically typed languages supporting such feature, it seems to me it could be done.
Let me show how I figure Scala could be extended to support it. First, let's see a simpler example:
def apply[T, R](f: (T*) => R)(args: T*) = f(args: _*)
This is real Scala code, and it works, but it won't work for any function which receives arbitrary types. For one thing, the notation T* will return a Seq[T], which is a homegenously-typed sequence. However, there are heterogeneously-typed sequences, such as the HList.
So, first, let's try to use HList here:
def apply[T <: HList, R](f: (T) => R)(args: T) = f(args)
That's still working Scala, but we put a big restriction on f by saying it must receive an HList, instead of an arbitrary number of parameters. Let's say we use @ to make the conversion from heterogeneous parameters to HList, the same way * converts from homogeneous parameters to Seq:
def apply[T, R](f: (T@) => R)(args: T@) = f(args: _@)
We aren't talking about real-life Scala anymore, but an hypothetical improvement to it. This looks reasonably to me, except that T is supposed to be one type by the type parameter notation. We could, perhaps, just extend it the same way:
def apply[T@, R](f: (T@) => R)(args: T@) = f(args: _@)
To me, it looks like that could work, though that may be naivety on my part.
Let's consider an alternate solution, one depending on unification of parameter lists and tuples. Let's say Scala had finally unified parameter list and tuples, and that all tuples were subclass to an abstract class Tuple. Then we could write this:
def apply[T <: Tuple, R](f: (T) => R)(args: T) = f(args)
There. Making an abstract class Tuple would be trivial, and the tuple/parameter list unification is not a far-fetched idea.
回答3:
The reason you can't do that in most statically typed languages is that they almost all choose to have a list type that is restricted to uniform lists. Typed Racket is an example for a language that can talk about lists that are not uniformly typed (eg, it has a Listof for uniform lists, and List for a list with a statically known length that can be non-uniform) -- but still it assigns a limited type (with uniform lists) for Racket's apply, since the real type is extremely difficult to encode.
回答4:
It's trivial in Scala:
Welcome to Scala version 2.8.0.final ...
scala> val li1 = List(1, 2, 3)
li1: List[Int] = List(1, 2, 3)
scala> li1.reduceLeft(_ + _)
res1: Int = 6
OK, typeless:
scala> def m1(args: Any*): Any = args.length
m1: (args: Any*)Any
scala> val f1 = m1 _
f1: (Any*) => Any = <function1>
scala> def apply(f: (Any*) => Any, args: Any*) = f(args: _*)
apply: (f: (Any*) => Any,args: Any*)Any
scala> apply(f1, "we", "don't", "need", "no", "stinkin'", "types")
res0: Any = 6
Perhaps I mixed up funcall and apply, so:
scala> def funcall(f: (Any*) => Any, args: Any*) = f(args: _*)
funcall: (f: (Any*) => Any,args: Any*)Any
scala> def apply(f: (Any*) => Any, args: List[Any]) = f(args: _*)
apply: (f: (Any*) => Any,args: List[Any])Any
scala> apply(f1, List("we", "don't", "need", "no", "stinkin'", "types"))
res0: Any = 6
scala> funcall(f1, "we", "don't", "need", "no", "stinkin'", "types")
res1: Any = 6
回答5:
It is possible to write apply in a statically-typed language, as long as functions are typed a particular way. In most languages, functions have individual parameters terminated either by a rejection (i.e. no variadic invocation), or a typed accept (i.e. variadic invocation possible, but only when all further parameters are of type T). Here's how you might model this in Scala:
trait TypeList[T]
case object Reject extends TypeList[Reject]
case class Accept[T](xs: List[T]) extends TypeList[Accept[T]]
case class Cons[T, U](head: T, tail: U) extends TypeList[Cons[T, U]]
Note that this doesn't enforce well-formedness (though type bounds do exist for that, I believe), but you get the idea. Then you have apply defined like this:
apply[T, U]: (TypeList[T], (T => U)) => U
Your functions, then, are defined in terms of type list things:
def f (x: Int, y: Int): Int = x + y
becomes:
def f (t: TypeList[Cons[Int, Cons[Int, Reject]]]): Int = t.head + t.tail.head
And variadic functions like this:
def sum (xs: Int*): Int = xs.foldLeft(0)(_ + _)
become this:
def sum (t: TypeList[Accept[Int]]): Int = t.xs.foldLeft(0)(_ + _)
The only problem with all of this is that in Scala (and in most other static languages), types aren't first-class enough to define the isomorphisms between any cons-style structure and a fixed-length tuple. Because most static languages don't represent functions in terms of recursive types, you don't have the flexibility to do things like this transparently. (Macros would change this, of course, as well as encouraging a reasonable representation of function types in the first place. However, using apply negatively impacts performance for obvious reasons.)
回答6:
In Haskell, there is no datatype for multi-types lists, although I believe, that you can hack something like this together whith the mysterious Typeable typeclass. As I see, you're looking for a function, which takes a function, a which contains exactly the same amount of values as needed by the function and returns the result.
For me, this looks very familiar to haskells uncurryfunction, just that it takes a tuple instead of a list. The difference is, that a tuple has always the same count of elements (so (1,2) and (1,2,3) are of different types (!)) and there contents can be arbitrary typed.
The uncurry function has this definition:
uncurry :: (a -> b -> c) -> (a,b) -> c
uncurry f (a,b) = f a b
What you need is some kind of uncurry which is overloaded in a way to provide an arbitrary number of params. I think of something like this:
{-# LANGUAGE MultiParamTypeClasses #-}
{-# LANGUAGE FlexibleInstances #-}
{-# LANGUAGE UndecidableInstances #-}
class MyApply f t r where
myApply :: f -> t -> r
instance MyApply (a -> b -> c) (a,b) c where
myApply f (a,b) = f a b
instance MyApply (a -> b -> c -> d) (a,b,c) d where
myApply f (a,b,c) = f a b c
-- and so on
But this only works, if ALL types involved are known to the compiler. Sadly, adding a fundep causes the compiler to refuse compilation. As I'm not a haskell guru, maybe domeone else knows, howto fix this. Sadly, I don't know how to archieve this easier.
Résumee: apply is not very easy in Haskell, although possible. I guess, you'll never need it.
Edit I have a better idea now, give me ten minutes and I present you something whithout these problems.
回答7:
try folds. they're probably similar to what you want. just write a special case of it.
haskell: foldr1 (+) [0..3] => 6
incidentally, foldr1 is functionally equivalent to foldr with the accumulator initialized as the element of the list.
there are all sorts of folds. they all technically do the same thing, though in different ways, and might do their arguments in different orders. foldr is just one of the simpler ones.
回答8:
On this page, I read that "Apply is just like funcall, except that its final argument should be a list; the elements of that list are treated as if they were additional arguments to a funcall."
In Scala, functions can have varargs (variadic arguments), like the newer versions of Java. You can convert a list (or any Iterable object) into more vararg parameters using the notation :_* Example:
//The asterisk after the type signifies variadic arguments
def someFunctionWithVarargs(varargs: Int*) = //blah blah blah...
val list = List(1, 2, 3, 4)
someFunctionWithVarargs(list:_*)
//equivalent to
someFunctionWithVarargs(1, 2, 3, 4)
In fact, even Java can do this. Java varargs can be passed either as a sequence of arguments or as an array. All you'd have to do is convert your Java List to an array to do the same thing.
回答9:
The benefit of a static language is that it would prevent you to apply a function to the arguments of incorrect types, so I think it's natural that it would be harder to do.
Given a list of arguments and a function, in Scala, a tuple would best capture the data since it can store values of different types. With that in mind tupled has some resemblance to apply:
scala> val args = (1, "a")
args: (Int, java.lang.String) = (1,a)
scala> val f = (i:Int, s:String) => s + i
f: (Int, String) => java.lang.String = <function2>
scala> f.tupled(args)
res0: java.lang.String = a1
For function of one argument, there is actually apply:
scala> val g = (i:Int) => i + 1
g: (Int) => Int = <function1>
scala> g.apply(2)
res11: Int = 3
I think if you think as apply as the mechanism to apply a first class function to its arguments, then the concept is there in Scala. But I suspect that apply in lisp is more powerful.
回答10:
For Haskell, to do it dynamically, see Data.Dynamic, and dynApp in particular: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/6.12.1/html/libraries/base/Data-Dynamic.html
回答11:
See his dynamic thing for haskell, in C, void function pointers can be casted to other types, but you'd have to specify the type to cast it to. (I think, haven't done function pointers in a while)
回答12:
A list in Haskell can only store values of one type, so you couldn't do funny stuff like (apply substring ["Foo",2,3]). Neither does Haskell have variadic functions, so (+) can only ever take two arguments.
There is a $ function in Haskell:
($) :: (a -> b) -> a -> b
f $ x = f x
But that's only really useful because it has very low precedence, or as passing around HOFs.
I imagine you might be able to do something like this using tuple types and fundeps though?
class Apply f tt vt | f -> tt, f -> vt where
apply :: f -> tt -> vt
instance Apply (a -> r) a r where
apply f t = f t
instance Apply (a1 -> a2 -> r) (a1,a2) r where
apply f (t1,t2) = f t1 t2
instance Apply (a1 -> a2 -> a3 -> r) (a1,a2,a3) r where
apply f (t1,t2,t3) = f t1 t2 t3
I guess that's a sort of 'uncurryN', isn't it?
Edit: this doesn't actually compile; superseded by @FUZxxl's answer.
来源：https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3693447/cannot-create-apply-function-with-static-language