Why all the Active Record hate? [closed]

Answer 1

The problem that I see with Active Records is, that it's always just about one table. That's okay, as long as you really work with just that one table, but when you work with data in most cases you'll have some kind of join somewhere.

Yes, join usually is worse than no join at all when it comes to performance, but join usually is better than "fake" join by first reading the whole table A and then using the gained information to read and filter table B.

Answer 2

I think there is a likely a very different set of reasons between why people are "hating" on ActiveRecord and what is "wrong" with it.

On the hating issue, there is a lot of venom towards anything Rails related. As far as what is wrong with it, it is likely that it is like all technology and there are situations where it is a good choice and situations where there are better choices. The situation where you don't get to take advantage of most of the features of Rails ActiveRecord, in my experience, is where the database is badly structured. If you are accessing data without primary keys, with things that violate first normal form, where there are lots of stored procedures required to access the data, you are better off using something that is more of just a SQL wrapper. If your database is relatively well structured, ActiveRecord lets you take advantage of that.

To add to the theme of replying to commenters who say things are hard in ActiveRecord with a code snippet rejoinder

@Sam McAfee Say you have a User class in your domain, and need to have references to, or collections of other objects, already loaded when you retrieve that User object. The data may be coming from many different tables, and an ActiveRecord pattern can make it really hard.

user = User.find(id, :include => ["posts", "comments"])
first_post = user.posts.first
first_comment = user.comments.first

By using the include option, ActiveRecord lets you override the default lazy-loading behavior.

Answer 3

There's ActiveRecord the Design Pattern and ActiveRecord the Rails ORM Library, and there's also a ton of knock-offs for .NET, and other languages.

These are all different things. They mostly follow that design pattern, but extend and modify it in many different ways, so before anyone says "ActiveRecord Sucks" it needs to be qualified by saying "which ActiveRecord, there's heaps?"

I'm only familiar with Rails' ActiveRecord, I'll try address all the complaints which have been raised in context of using it.

@BlaM

The problem that I see with Active Records is, that it's always just about one table

Code:

class Person
    belongs_to :company
end
people = Person.find(:all, :include => :company )

This generates SQL with LEFT JOIN companies on companies.id = person.company_id, and automatically generates associated Company objects so you can do people.first.company and it doesn't need to hit the database because the data is already present.

@pix0r

The inherent problem with Active Record is that database queries are automatically generated and executed to populate objects and modify database records

Code:

person = Person.find_by_sql("giant complicated sql query")

This is discouraged as it's ugly, but for the cases where you just plain and simply need to write raw SQL, it's easily done.

@Tim Sullivan

...and you select several instances of the model, you're basically doing a "select * from ..."

Code:

people = Person.find(:all, :select=>'name, id')

This will only select the name and ID columns from the database, all the other 'attributes' in the mapped objects will just be nil, unless you manually reload that object, and so on.

Answer 4

I have always found that ActiveRecord is good for quick CRUD-based applications where the Model is relatively flat (as in, not a lot of class hierarchies). However, for applications with complex OO hierarchies, a DataMapper is probably a better solution. While ActiveRecord assumes a 1:1 ratio between your tables and your data objects, that kind of relationship gets unwieldy with more complex domains. In his book on patterns, Martin Fowler points out that ActiveRecord tends to break down under conditions where your Model is fairly complex, and suggests a DataMapper as the alternative.

I have found this to be true in practice. In cases, where you have a lot inheritance in your domain, it is harder to map inheritance to your RDBMS than it is to map associations or composition.

The way I do it is to have "domain" objects that are accessed by your controllers via these DataMapper (or "service layer") classes. These do not directly mirror the database, but act as your OO representation for some real-world object. Say you have a User class in your domain, and need to have references to, or collections of other objects, already loaded when you retrieve that User object. The data may be coming from many different tables, and an ActiveRecord pattern can make it really hard.

Instead of loading the User object directly and accessing data using an ActiveRecord style API, your controller code retrieves a User object by calling the API of the UserMapper.getUser() method, for instance. It is that mapper that is responsible for loading any associated objects from their respective tables and returning the completed User "domain" object to the caller.

Essentially, you are just adding another layer of abstraction to make the code more managable. Whether your DataMapper classes contain raw custom SQL, or calls to a data abstraction layer API, or even access an ActiveRecord pattern themselves, doesn't really matter to the controller code that is receiving a nice, populated User object.

Anyway, that's how I do it.

Answer 5

I'm going to talk about Active Record as a design pattern, I haven't seen ROR.

Some developers hate Active Record, because they read smart books about writing clean and neat code, and these books states that active record violates single resposobility principle, violates DDD rule that domain object should be persistant ignorant, and many other rules from these kind of books.

The second thing domain objects in Active Record tend to be 1-to-1 with database, that may be considered a limitation in some kind of systems (n-tier mostly).

Thats just abstract things, i haven't seen ruby on rails actual implementation of this pattern.

Answer 6

Try doing a many to many polymorphic relationship. Not so easy. Especially when you aren't using STI.