Any real-world, enterprise-grade experience with Transactional NTFS (TxF)?

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伪装坚强ぢ 2020-12-30 23:53

Background:

I am aware of this SO question about Transactional NTFS (TxF) and this article describing how to use it, but I am looking for <

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  • 2020-12-31 00:37

    Have you considered filestream support in SQL Server 2008 (if you're using SQL Server 2008 of course)? I'm not sure about performance, but it offers transactionality and supports backup/restore.

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  • 2020-12-31 00:42

    Ronald: FileStream is layered on top of TxF.

    JR: While Windows Update uses TxF/KTM and demonstrates it's utility, it is not a high throughput application.

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  • 2020-12-31 00:47

    While I don't have extensive experienve with TxF, I do have experience with MS DTC. TxF itself is fairly performant. When you throw in the MS DTC to handle multiple resource managers across multiple machines, performance takes a considerable hit.

    From your description, it sounds like you are storing and indexing very large volumes of unstructured data. I assume that you also need the ability to search for this data. As such, I would highly recommend looking into something like Microsoft's Dryad or Google's MapReduce and a high performance distributed file system to handle your unstructured data storage and indexing. The best examples of high-volume enterprise systems that store and index massive volumes of blob data are Internet search engines like Bing and Google.

    There are quite a few resources available for managing high-throughput unstructured data, and they would probably solve your problem more effectively than SQL Server and NTFS.

    I know its a bit farther out of the box than you were probably looking for...but you did mention that you had already exhausted all other search avenues around the NTFS/TxF/SQL box. ;)

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  • 2020-12-31 00:50

    I suppose "real-world, enterprise-grade" experience is more subjective than it sounds.

    Windows Update uses TXF. So it is being used quite heavily in terms of frequency. Now, it isn't doing any multi-node work and it isn't going through DTC or anything fancy like that, but it is using TXF to manipulate file state. It coordinates these changes with changes to the registry (TXR). Does that count?

    A colleague of mine presented this talk to SNIA, which is pretty frank about a lot of the work around TXF and might shed a little more light. If you're thinking of using TXF, it's worth a read.

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  • 2020-12-31 00:59

    Unfortunately, it appears that the answer is "No."

    In nearly two weeks (one week with a 100 point bounty) and 156 views, no one has answered that they have used TxF for any high-volume applications as I described. I can't say this was unexpected, and of course I cannot prove a negative, but it appears this feature of Windows is not well known or frequently used, at least by active members of the SO community at the time of writing.

    If I ever get around to writing some kind of proof of concept, I'll post here what I learn.

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