Reproducibility of python pseudo-random numbers across systems and versions?

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后悔当初 2020-12-20 12:08

I need to generate a controlled sequence of pseudo-random numbers, given an initial parameter. For that I\'m using the standard python random generator, seeded by this param

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  • 2020-12-20 12:22

    I just found out that there is also a difference between python3.7 and python3.8.

    The following code behaves the same

    from random import Random
    seed = 317
    rand = Random(seed)
    rand.getrandbits(64)
    

    but if you use from _random import Random instead, it behaves differently.

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  • 2020-12-20 12:29

    @reubano - 3.2 changed the integer functions in random, to produce more evenly distributed (which inevitably means different) output.

    That change was discussed in Issue9025, where the team discuss whether they have an obligation to stick to the previous output, even when it was defective. They conclude that they do not. The docs for the module guarantee consistency for random.random() - one might assume that the functions which call it (like random.randrange()) are implicitly covered under that guarantee, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

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  • 2020-12-20 12:32

    Just as a heads up: in addition to the 2.3 change, python 3 gives numbers from python 2.x from randrange and probably other functions, even if the numbers from random.random are similar.

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  • 2020-12-20 12:37

    No, it doesn't. There's no such promise in the random module's documentation.

    What the docs do contain is this remark:

    Changed in version 2.3: MersenneTwister replaced Wichmann-Hill as the default generator

    So a different RNG was used prior to Python 2.3.

    So far, I've been using numpy.random.RandomState for reproducible pseudo-randomness, though it too does not make the formal promise you're after.

    If you want full reproducibility, you might want to include a copy of random's source in your program, or hack together a "P²RNG" (pseudo-pseudo-RNG) from hashlib.

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  • 2020-12-20 12:46

    Not necessarily.

    As described in the documentation, the random module has used the Mersenne twister to generate random numbers since version 2.3, but used Wichmann-Hill before that.

    (If a seed is not provided, the method of obtaining the seed also does depend on the operating system, the Python version, and factors such as the system time).

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