Why is IS NOT NULL returning NULL values for a Varchar(max) in SQL Server?

Question

1. It looks like some NULL values are appearing in the list.
2. Some NULL valu

Answer 1

Colin:

I'm pretty sure all this is happening because of the database conversion. Since you need to solve this thing ASAP, my suggestion is to guarantee that your AdditionalFields data is ok first, and try to understand why this happens after:

1. Do a backup;

2. Run this T-SQL:

   update grants
   set AdditionalFields = ltrim(rtrim(isnull(AdditionalFields,'')))
   

The isnull function will transform your null values in empty strings, and the left/right trim should guarantee that even fields with more than one space will have the same value after.

Could you run this and feedback us later with the results?

Best regards

Answer 2

This is just an addition to McSim's answer using SQL Server Internals Viewer to look at the individual stages.

CREATE TABLE [dbo].[Test](
    [Id] [int] NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY ,
    [Value] [text] NULL)


INSERT INTO Test VALUES (1, '')

Row after initial insert

Text value after initial insert

update [Test] SET [Value] = null 

Row after update to NULL

This is identical to the row shown earlier so I haven't repeated the screenshot. Specifically the NULL_BITMAP does not get updated to reflect the new NULL value.

Text value after update to NULL

The Type bits have changed and Internals Viewer shows this as no longer containing a value for the Data column.

At this point running the following correctly returns no rows

SET STATISTICS IO ON
select [Id]
from [Test]
where [Value] is not null

So SQL Server must follow the text pointer and look at the value there to determine NULL-ability.

ALTER TABLE [Test] ALTER COLUMN [Value] varchar(max)

This is a metadata only change. Both the inrow and out of row data remain unchanged.

However at this point running the following incorrectly returns the row.

SET STATISTICS IO ON
select [Id]
from [Test]
where [Value] is not null

The output of STATISTICS IO

Scan count 1, logical reads 2, ... lob logical reads 1

shows that it still does actually follow the text pointer but presumably in the varchar(max) case there must be a different code path that incorrectly ends up taking the value from the NULL_BITMAP regardless (the value of which has never been updated since the initial insert).

Answer 3

I suspect the word NULL is neing stored in the db, use select * from blah where mycolumn = 'NULL'

Answer 4

As others have pointed out this result is utterly impossible.

1. Please post a screenshot of the actual execution plan.
2. Please run dbcc checkdb and post the error messages, if any.

(2) is actually my favorite right now.

Answer 5

I got a sample code to reproduce the above behavior. The problem arises when you have a TEXT field that stores a value larger than it can fit in a row and if you set it afterwards to NULL and perform the column conversion to VARCHAR(MAX).

The large value gets stored in a separate page. Then you set the value of this field to NULL. If you now convert this column to a VARCHAR(MAX), then SQL Server seems to not get it right. Typically on a TEXT to VARCHAR(MAX) conversion the external pages stay as they are, but maybe because it was set to NULL, the column altering messes things up.

Update: It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the large values in the TEXT column. Short values show the same behavior (extended sample). So it's just the explicit setting to NULL through an UPDATE and the conversion that matters.

CREATE TABLE [dbo].[Test](
    [Id] [int] NOT NULL,
    [Value] [text] NULL,
 CONSTRAINT [PK_Test] PRIMARY KEY CLUSTERED 
(
    [Id] ASC
)WITH (PAD_INDEX  = OFF, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE  = OFF, IGNORE_DUP_KEY = OFF, ALLOW_ROW_LOCKS  = ON, ALLOW_PAGE_LOCKS  = ON) ON [PRIMARY]
) ON [PRIMARY] TEXTIMAGE_ON [PRIMARY]

GO

INSERT INTO Test VALUES (1, 'test')
INSERT INTO Test VALUES (2, '')
INSERT INTO Test VALUES (3, NULL)
INSERT INTO Test VALUES (4, '0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678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INSERT INTO Test VALUES (5, 'short string')
GO

update test SET value = null where ID = 4
update test SET value = null where ID = 5
GO

ALTER TABLE test ALTER COLUMN value varchar(max)
GO

select id, value, len(value) as length
from test
where value is not null
GO

The result is:

1   test    4
2           0
4   NULL    NULL
5   NULL    NULL

An easy fix for this problem would be to reassign the values in the VARCHAR(MAX) columns.

UPDATE Test SET value = value

This seems to put the values in the rows that were previously stored in external pages. (See for reference: NTEXT vs NVARCHAR(MAX) in SQL 2005)