What is the purpose of null?

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别那么骄傲 2020-12-07 22:24

I am in a compilers class and we are tasked with creating our own language, from scratch. Currently our dilemma is whether to include a \'null\' type or not. What purpose do

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  • 2020-12-07 23:15

    That decision depends on the objective of the programing language.

    Who are you designing the programing language for? Are you designing it for people who are familiar with c-derived languages? If so, then you should probably add support for null.

    In general, I would say that you should avoid violating people's expectations unless it serves a particular purpose.

    Take switch-blocks in C# as an example. All case labels in C# must have an explicit control-flow expression in every branch. That is they must all end with either a "break" statement or an explicit goto. That means that while this code is legal:

    switch(x)
    {
        case 1:
        case 2:
            foo;
            break;
    }
    

    That this code would not be legal:

    switch (x)
    {
        case 1:
            foo();
        case 2:
            bar();
            break;
    }
    

    In order to create a "fall through" from case 1 to case 2, it's necessary to insert a goto, like this:

    switch (x)
    {
        case 1:
            foo();
            goto case 2;
        case 2:
            bar();
            break;
    }
    

    This is arguably something that would violate the expectations of C++ programmers who are leaning C#. However, adding that restriction serves a purpose. It eliminates the possibility of an entire class of common C++ bugs. It adds to the learning curve of the language slightly, but the result is a net benefit to the programmer.

    If your goal is to design a language targeted at C++ programmers, then removing null would probably violate their expectations. That will cause confusion, and make your language more difficult to learn. The key question is then, "what benefit do they get"? Or, alternatively, "what detriment does this cause".

    If you are simply trying to design a "super small language" that can be implemented in the course of a single semester, then the story is different. In that case your objective isn't to be build a useful language targeted at a particular segment of the population. Instead, it's just to learn how to create a compiler. In that scenario, having a smaller language is a big benefit, and so it's worth eliminating null.

    So, to recap, I would say that you should:

    1. Identify your goals in creating the language. Who is the language designed for, and what are their needs.
    2. Make the decision based on what helps the target users meet their goals in the best way.

    Usually this will make the desired result pretty clear.

    Of course, if you don't explicitly articulate your design goals, or you can't agree on what they are, then you are still going to argue. In that case, however, you are pretty much doomed anyways.

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  • 2020-12-07 23:15

    Null is a placeholder that means that no value (append "of the correct type" for a static-typed language) can be assigned to that variable.

    There is cognitive dissonance here. I heard somewhere else that humans cannot comprehend negation, because they must suppose a value and then imagine its unfitness.

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  • 2020-12-07 23:17

    It seems useful to have a way to indicate a reference or pointer that isn't currently pointing at anything, whether you call it null, nil, None, etc. If for no other reason to let people know when they're about to fall off the end of a linked list.

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  • 2020-12-07 23:19

    What's null for you ask?

    Well,

    Nothing.

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  • 2020-12-07 23:19

    I usually think of 'null' in the C/C++ aspect of 'memory address 0'. It's not strictly needed, but if it didn't exist, then people would just use something else (if myNumber == -1, or if myString == "").

    All I know is, I can't think of a day I've spent coding that I haven't typed the word "null", so I think that makes it pretty important.

    In the .NET world, MS recently added nullable types for int, long, etc that never used to be nullable, so I guess they think its pretty important too.

    If I was designing a lanaguage, I would keep it. However I wouldnt avoid using a language that didn't have null either. It would just take a little getting used too.

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  • 2020-12-07 23:19

    Null provides an easy way out for programmers who haven't completely thought through the logic and domains needed by their program, or the future maintenance implications of using a value with essentially no clear and agreed upon definition.

    It may seem obvious at first that it must mean "no value", but what that ACTUALLY means depends on context. If, for instance LastName === null, does that mean that person doesn't have a last name, or that we don't know what their last name is, or that it hasn't be entered into the system yet? Does null equal itself, or doesn't it? In SQL it does not. In many languages it does. But if we don't know the value of personA.lastName, or personB.lastName, how can we know that personA.lastName === personB.lastName, eh? Should the result be false, or .. . null?

    It depends on what you're doing, which is why it's dangerous and silly to have some kind of system wide value that can be used for any kind of situation that kind of looks like "nothing", since how other parts of your program and external libraries or modules can't really be depended upon to correctly interpret what you meant by "null".

    You're much better off clearly defining the DOMAIN of possible values of lastName, and exactly what every possible value actually means, rather than depending on some vague systemwide notion of null, which may or may not have any relevance to what you're doing, depending on which language you're using, and what you're trying to do. A value, which may in fact, behave in exactly the wrong way when you begin to operate on your data.

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