Does it make any sense to use the LFENCE instruction on x86/x86_64 processors?

Question

Often in internet I find that LFENCE makes no sense in processors x86, ie it does nothing , so instead MFENCE we can absolutely painless to use

Answer 1

Consider the following scenario - this is the critical case where speculative load execution can theoretically harm sequential consistency

initially [x]=[y]=0

CPU0:                              CPU1: 
store [x]<--1                      store [y]<--1
load  r1<--[y]                     load r2<--[x]

Since x86 allows loads to be reordered with earlier stores to different addresses, both loads may return 0's. Adding an lfence alone after each store wouldn't prevent that, since they only prevent reordering within the same context, but since stores are dispatched after retirement you can have both lfences and both loads commit before the stores are performed and observed.

An mfence on the other hand would force the stores to perform, and only then allow the loads to be executed, so you'll see the updated data on at least one context.

As for sfences - as pointed out in the comment, in theory it's not strong enough to prevent the load from reordering above it, so it might still read stale data. While this is true as far as the memory official ordering rules apply, I believe that current implementation of x86 uarch makes it slightly stronger (while not committing to do so in the future, I guess). According to this description:

Because of the strong x86 ordering model, the load buffer is snooped by coherency traffic. A remote store must invalidate all other copies of a cache line. If a cache line is read by a load, and then invalidated by a remote store, the load must be cancelled, since it potentially read invalid data. The x86 memory model does not require snooping the store buffer.

Therefore, any load not yet committed in the machine should be snoopable by stores from other cores, thereby making the effective observation time of the load at the commit point, and not the execution point (which is indeed out of order and may have been performed much earlier). Commit is done in order, and therefore the load should be observed after previous instructions - making lfences pretty much useless as I said above in the comments, since the consistency can be maintained the same way without them. This is mostly speculation, trying to explain the common conception that lfences are meaningless in x86 - I'm not entirely sure where it originated and if there are other considerations at hand - would be happy for any expert to approve / challenge this theory.

All the above applies only for WB mem types of course

Answer 2

Bottom line (TL;DR): LFENCE alone indeed seems useless for memory ordering, however it does not make SFENCE a substitute for MFENCE. The "arithmetic" logic in the question is not applicable.

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Here is an excerpt from Intel's Software Developers Manual, volume 3, section 8.2.2 (the edition 325384-052US of September 2014), the same that I used in another answer

• Reads are not reordered with other reads.
• Writes are not reordered with older reads.
• Writes to memory are not reordered with other writes, with the following exceptions:
  • writes executed with the CLFLUSH instruction;
  • streaming stores (writes) executed with the non-temporal move instructions (MOVNTI, MOVNTQ, MOVNTDQ, MOVNTPS, and MOVNTPD); and
  • string operations (see Section 8.2.4.1).
• Reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations but not with older writes to the same location.
• Reads or writes cannot be reordered with I/O instructions, locked instructions, or serializing instructions.
• Reads cannot pass earlier LFENCE and MFENCE instructions.
• Writes cannot pass earlier LFENCE, SFENCE, and MFENCE instructions.
• LFENCE instructions cannot pass earlier reads.
• SFENCE instructions cannot pass earlier writes.
• MFENCE instructions cannot pass earlier reads or writes.

From here, it follows that:

• MFENCE is a full memory fence for all operations on all memory types, whether non-temporal or not.
• SFENCE only prevents reordering of writes (in other terminology, it's a StoreStore barrier), and is only useful together with non-temporal stores and other instructions listed as exceptions.
• LFENCE prevents reordering of reads with subsequent reads and writes (i.e. it combines LoadLoad and LoadStore barriers). However, the first two bullets say that LoadLoad and LoadStore barriers are always in place, no exceptions. Therefore LFENCE alone is useless for memory ordering.

To support the last claim, I looked at all places where LFENCE is mentioned in all 3 volumes of Intel's manual, and found none which would say that LFENCE is required for memory consistency. Even MOVNTDQA - the only non-temporal load instruction so far - mentions MFENCE but not LFENCE.

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Update: see answers on Why is (or isn't?) SFENCE + LFENCE equivalent to MFENCE? for correct answers to the guesswork below

Whether MFENCE is equivalent to a "sum" of other two fences or not is a tricky question. At glance, among the three fence instructions only MFENCE provides StoreLoad barrier, i.e. prevents reordering of reads with earlier writes. However the correct answer requires to know more than the above rules; namely, it's important that all fence instructions are ordered with respect to each other. This makes the SFENCE LFENCE sequence more powerful than a mere union of individual effects: this sequence also prevents StoreLoad reordering (because loads cannot pass LFENCE, which cannot pass SFENCE, which cannot pass stores), and thus constitutes a full memory fence (but also see the note (*) below). Note however that order matters here, and the LFENCE SFENCE sequence does not have the same synergy effect.

However, while one can say that MFENCE ~ SFENCE LFENCE and LFENCE ~ NOP, that does not mean MFENCE ~ SFENCE. I deliberately use equivalence (~) and not equality (=) to stress that arithmetic rules do not apply here. The mutual effect of SFENCE followed by LFENCE makes the difference; even though loads are not reordered with each other, LFENCE is required to prevent reordering of loads with SFENCE.

(*) It still might be correct to say that MFENCE is stronger than the combination of the other two fences. In particular, a note to CLFLUSH instruction in the volume 2 of Intel's manual says that "CLFLUSH is only ordered by the MFENCE instruction. It is not guaranteed to be ordered by any other fencing or serializing instructions or by another CLFLUSH instruction."

(Update, clflush is now defined as strongly ordered (like a normal store, so you only need mfence if you want to block later loads), but clflushopt is weakly ordered, but can be fenced by sfence.)