8 logical threads at 4 cores will at a maximum run 4 times faster in parallel?

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悲哀的现实 2021-02-04 08:28

I\'m benchmarking software which executes 4x faster on Intel 2670QM then my serial version using all 8 of my \'logical\' threads. I would like some community feedback on my

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  • 2021-02-04 09:04

    The important piece of information to understand here is the difference between physical and logical thread.
    If you have 4 physical cores on your CPU, that means you have physical resources to execute 4 distinct thread of execution in parallel. So, if your threads do not have data contention, you can normally measure a x4 performance increase, compared to the speed of the single thread.
    I'm also assuming that the OS (or you :)) sets the thread affinity correctly, so each thread is run on each physical core.
    When you enable HT (Hyper-Threading) on your CPU the core frequency is not modified. :)
    What happen is that part of the hw pipeline (inside the core and around (uncore, cache, etc)) is duplicated, but part of it is still shared between the logical threads. That's the reason why you do not measure a x8 performance increase. In my experience enabling all logical cores you can get a x1.5 - x1.7 performance improvement per physical core, depending on the code you are executing, cache usage (remember that the L1 cache is shared between two logical cores/1 physical core, for instance), thread affinity, and so on and so forth. Hope this helps.

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  • 2021-02-04 09:06

    This is a quick summary of Hyperthreading

    Thread switching is slow, having to stop execution, copy a bunch of values into memory, copy a bunch of values out of memory into the CPU, then start things going again with the new thread.

    This is where your 4 virtual cores come in. You have 4 cores, that is it, but what hyperthreading allows the CPU to do is have 2 threads on a single core.

    Only 1 thread can execute at a time, however when 1 thread needs to stop to do a memory access, disk access or anything else that is going to take some time, it can switch in the other thread and run it for a bit. On old processors, they basically had a bit of a sleep in this time.

    So your quad core has 4 cores, which can do 1 thing at a time each, but can have a 2nd job on standby as soon as they need to wait on another part of the computer.

    If your task has a lot of memory usage and a lot of CPU usage, you should see a slight decrease in total execution time, but if you are almost entirely CPU bound you will be better off sticking with just 4 threads

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  • 2021-02-04 09:14

    A i7-2670QM processor has 4 cores. But it can run 8 threads in parallel. This means that it only has 4 processing units (Cores) but has support in hardware to run 8 threads in parallel. This means that a maximum of four jobs run in on the Cores, if one of the jobs stall due to for example memory access another thread can very fast start executing on the free Core with very little penalty. Read more on Hyper threading. In Reality there are few scenarios where hyper threading gives a large performance gain. More modern processors handle hyper threading better than older processors.

    Your benchmark showed that it was CPU bound, i.e. There was little stalls in the pipeline that would have given Hyper Threading an advantage. 50% CPU is correct has the 4 cores are working and the 4 extra are not doing anything. Turn of hyper threading in the BIOS and you will see 100% CPU.

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  • 2021-02-04 09:14

    Some actual numbers:

    CPU-intensive task on my i7, (adding numbers from 1-1000000000 into an int var, 16 times), averaged over 8 tests:

    Summary, threads/ticks:

    1/26414
    4/8923
    8/6659
    12/6592
    16/6719
    64/6811
    128/6778
    

    Note that in the 'using X threads' line in the reports below, X is one greater than the number of threads available to do the tasks - one thread submits the tasks and waits on a countdown-latch evnet for their completion - it processes none of the CPU-heavy tasks and used no CPU.

    8 tests,
    16 tasks,
    counting to 1000000000,
    using 2 threads:
    Ticks: 26286
    Ticks: 26380
    Ticks: 26317
    Ticks: 26474
    Ticks: 26442
    Ticks: 26426
    Ticks: 26474
    Ticks: 26520
    Average: 26414 ms
    
    8 tests,
    16 tasks,
    counting to 1000000000,
    using 5 threads:
    Ticks: 8799
    Ticks: 9157
    Ticks: 8829
    Ticks: 9002
    Ticks: 9173
    Ticks: 8720
    Ticks: 8830
    Ticks: 8876
    Average: 8923 ms
    
    8 tests,
    16 tasks,
    counting to 1000000000,
    using 9 threads:
    Ticks: 6615
    Ticks: 6583
    Ticks: 6630
    Ticks: 6599
    Ticks: 6521
    Ticks: 6895
    Ticks: 6848
    Ticks: 6583
    Average: 6659 ms
    
    8 tests,
    16 tasks,
    counting to 1000000000,
    using 13 threads:
    Ticks: 6661
    Ticks: 6599
    Ticks: 6552
    Ticks: 6630
    Ticks: 6583
    Ticks: 6583
    Ticks: 6568
    Ticks: 6567
    Average: 6592 ms
    
    8 tests,
    16 tasks,
    counting to 1000000000,
    using 17 threads:
    Ticks: 6739
    Ticks: 6864
    Ticks: 6599
    Ticks: 6693
    Ticks: 6676
    Ticks: 6864
    Ticks: 6646
    Ticks: 6677
    Average: 6719 ms
    
    8 tests,
    16 tasks,
    counting to 1000000000,
    using 65 threads:
    Ticks: 7223
    Ticks: 6552
    Ticks: 6879
    Ticks: 6677
    Ticks: 6833
    Ticks: 6786
    Ticks: 6739
    Ticks: 6802
    Average: 6811 ms
    
    8 tests,
    16 tasks,
    counting to 1000000000,
    using 129 threads:
    Ticks: 6771
    Ticks: 6677
    Ticks: 6755
    Ticks: 6692
    Ticks: 6864
    Ticks: 6817
    Ticks: 6849
    Ticks: 6801
    Average: 6778 ms
    
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  • 2021-02-04 09:23

    HT is called SMT (Simultaneous MultiThreading) or HTT (HyperThreading Technology) in most BIOSes. The efficiency of HT depends on the so called compute-to-fetch ratio that is how many in-core (or register/cache) operations your code does before it fetches from or stores to the slow main memory or I/O memory. For highly cache efficient and CPU-bound codes the HT gives almost no noticeable performance increase. For more memory bound codes the HT can really benefit the execution due to the so-called "latency hiding". That's why most non-x86 server CPUs provide 4 (e.g. IBM POWER7) to 8 (e.g. UltraSPARC T4) hardware threads per core. These CPUs are usually used in database and transactional processing systems where many concurrent memory-bound requests are serviced at once.

    By the way, the Amdhal's law states that the upper limit of the parallel speedup is one over the serial fraction of the code. Usually the serial fraction increases with the number of processing elements if there is (possibly hidden in the runtime) communication or other synchronisation between the threads, although sometimes cache effects can lead to superlinear speedup and sometimes cache trashing can reduce performance drastically.

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