I have been using Eloquent ORM for some time now and I know it quite well, but I can\'t do the following, while it\'s very easy to do in Fluent.
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I have been doing this ( on several builds ) simply using the relationship method as you have. I often use an 'order' column in the pivot table and then do something like this.
$article->tags()->order_by( 'order')->get();
This may be ambiguous if you have columns named 'order' in the joining table. If so you would need to specify ->order_by( 'article_tag.order' ). And yes, you need to use ->with() to get that column in the result set. As just a matter of style I would leave the with() out of the relationship method and just return the vanilla relationship object instead.