Is the max value of size_t (SIZE_MAX) defined relative to the other integer types?

Question

I\'m writing a library of functions that will safely convert between various numeric types or die trying. My intent is roughly equal parts create-useful-library and learn-C-edge

Answer 1

The current C standard does not require size_t to be at least as wide as an int, and I'm skeptical about any version of the standard ever doing so. size_t needs to be able to represent any number which might be the size of an object; if the implementation limits object sizes to be 24 bits wide, then size_t could be a 24-bit unsigned type, regardless of what an int is.

The GCC warning does not refer to theoretical possibilities. It is checking a particular hardware platform and a particular compiler and runtime. That means it sometimes triggers on code which is trying to be portable. (There are other cases where portable code will trigger optional GCC warnings.) That might not be what you were hoping the warning would do, but there are probably users whose expectations are precisely matched by the implemented behaviour, and the standard provides no guidelines whatsoever for compiler warnings.

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As OP mentions in a comment, there is a long history related to this warning. The warning was introduced in version 3.3.2 or so (in 2003), apparently not controlled by any -W flag. This was reported as bug 12963 by a user who evidently felt, as you do, that the warning discourages portable programming. As can be seen in the bug report, various GCC maintainers (and other well-known members of the community) weighed in with strongly-felt but conflicting opinions. (This is a common dynamic in open source bug reports.) After several years, the decision was made to control the warnings with a flag, and to not enable that flag by default or as part of -Wall. In the meantime, the -W option had been renamed -Wextra, and the newly-created flag (-Wtype-limits) was added to the -Wextra collection. To me, this appears to be the correct resolution.

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The remainder of this answer contains my personal opinion.

-Wall, as documented in the GCC manual, does not actually enable all warnings. It enables those warnings "about constructions that some users consider questionable, and that are easy to avoid (or modify to prevent the warning), even in conjunction with macros." There are a number of other conditions which GCC can detect:

Note that some warning flags are not implied by -Wall. Some of them warn about constructions that users generally do not consider questionable, but which occasionally you might wish to check for; others warn about constructions that are necessary or hard to avoid in some cases, and there is no simple way to modify the code to suppress the warning. Some of them are enabled by -Wextra but many of them must be enabled individually.

These distinctions are somewhat arbitrary. For example, I have to grit my teeth every time that GCC decides to "suggest parentheses around ‘&&’ within ‘||’". (It doesn't seem to feel the need to suggest parentheses around ´*´ within ´+´, which doesn't feel different to me.) But I recognize that all of us have different comfort levels with operator precedence, and not all of GCC's suggestions about parentheses seem excessive to me.

But on the whole, the distinction seems reasonable. There are warnings which are generally applicable, and those are enabled with -Wall, which should always be specified because these warnings almost always demand action to correct a deficiency. There are other warnings which might be useful in particular circumstances, but which also have lots of false positive; these warnings need to be investigated individually because they do not always (or even often) correspond with a problem in your code.

I'm aware that there are people who feel that the mere fact that GCC knows how to warn about some condition is sufficient to demand action to avoid that warning. Everyone is entitled to their stylistic and aesthetic judgements, and it is right and just that such programmers add -Wextra to their build flags. I am not in that crowd, however. At a given point in a project, I will try a build with a large collection of optional warnings enabled, and consider whether or not to modify my code on the basis of the reports, but I really don't want to spend my development time thinking about non-problems every time I rebuild a file. The -Wtypes-limit flag falls into this category for me.